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Analysis: Are Israelis tough enough for a long war with Iran?
Published Monday 13/08/2012 (updated) 15/08/2012 09:46
Texan II T-6 training aircrafts fly in formation during an air force pilots'
graduation ceremony in southern Israel. (Reuters/Nir Elias, File)

JERUSALEM (Reuters) -- For Israel to carry out a long-threatened strike on Iranian nuclear sites, it would have to overcome dissent within its governing coalition reflecting public fear of igniting an unprecedented missile war.

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu says that scenario would be "dwarfed" by the prospect of an Iranian bomb, which he describes as tantamount to a second Holocaust - language that seems to herald a Jewish call to arms.

But the popular conservative leader has not proven very persuasive. While surveys show a growing minority - now 32-35 percent - of Israelis favor taking Iran on alone, more are opposed. Around a quarter are undecided.

Some commentators ask whether a state shaped through decades of war has become more fearful of the consequences in the face of Iran, a formidable and distant foe capable, along with Islamist allies in Lebanon and Gaza, of raining down thousands of missiles and rockets in retaliation.

Defense Minister Ehud Barak estimates 500 Israelis would die should a strike on Iran, which denies seeking to develop nuclear weaponry, turn into a regional exchange of fire.

Such casualties would be painful for a population of 7.8 million, but would not be on the same scale as Israel's 1 percent death toll from its 1948 independence war and the steep losses from similar conflicts in 1967 and 1973.

The difference is that this time, Israel's home front would bear the brunt of any reprisals from Iran, Lebanon's Hezbollah, Palestinian armed factions and perhaps Syria.

A sophisticated Israeli missile shield would fend off some salvos, but those that get through could hit almost anywhere, potentially paralyzing the economy and filling bomb shelters.

Matan Vilnai, the civil defense minister, told Israeli Channel 10 TV that while the home front was not fully prepared, he hoped emergency drills held in recent years were "building up the sense, among the people, that there's someone to depend on".

Other reasons Israelis balk at war include reluctance to alienate the United States, which currently prefers diplomacy, and trust in Israeli deterrence against Iran. Israel is believed to be the region's only nuclear power and to have assassinated Iranian atomic scientists in a sabotage and delay campaign.

But Israelis' casualty tolerance, whether civilian or in the conscript military, may also have waned. Their forces inflicted a 10:1 kill ratio in the 2006 Lebanon war and a 100:1 ratio in the 2008-2009 Gaza Strip offensive.

Last year, Netanyahu freed more than 1,000 jailed Palestinians in an unprecedentedly lopsided swap for Gilad Shalit, an Israeli soldier held in Gaza.

Costs of war

Martin van Creveld, a military historian who is critical of the Netanyahu government's Iran posture, posited a deterioration in Israel's fitness to confront an enemy state since it absorbed Iraqi missile salvos in the 1991 Gulf war.

"More than 20 years of fighting the weak has bred in Israel a revolting blend of aggression and self-pity," he said, referring to outgunned Lebanese and Palestinians.

Van Creveld questioned whether Israeli morale was prepared for the costs of an Iran war, such as downed pilots. But retired air force chief David Ivry, who masterminded Israel's 1981 bombing of Iraq's atomic reactor, dismissed such pessimism.

Even were Iran to take 10 pilots captive, he said, "we'll free 10,000 prisoners to get them back. If the country decides that its national security is at stake, then the price is paid."

Philip Handleman, US-based co-author of "Air Combat Reader - Historic Feats and Aviation Legends", said he believed Israel was willing to tackle Iran though bereft of the long-range bombers and refueling planes available to the Americans.

"I don't think Israel would be 'banking on' subsequent US military involvement, though that might very well happen. If Israel strikes, it would be out of a pureness of heart, a very primordial survivalist instinct," Handleman said.

Israel's resilience has been underestimated in the past.

Hezbollah leader Hassan Nasrallah used to compare it to a "spider's web" - easily blown away. Then Hezbollah triggered the 2006 war with a cross-border raid which Nasrallah later rued, saying he would not have ordered it had he known Israel's response would be that fierce.

There is ample indication Israel would similarly try to hit Iran and its allies hard and fast, hoping to curtail the fight.

"War is difficult and sad, and when it is unavoidable it should be embarked upon with all capabilities utilized so as not to become its victim," Shimon Peres, Israel's president and a Nobel Peace Prize laureate, wrote in a weekend newspaper essay.

Israeli public support for a war, once under way, would depend on whether patriotic sentiment sweeps up waverers and surpasses the stress of sheltering from Iranian counter-strikes.

"When there is shooting or the finger gets close to the trigger, everyone goes quiet," wrote Ofer Shelah of the Maariv daily, noting the meager turnout at Israeli anti-war protests.

Amos Oz, Israel's best-known novelist, said only wars deemed necessary could count on broad domestic backing.

"It all depends on whether a war is one of no alternative, or a war of choice," he told Reuters. "I think an Israeli attack on Iran would be a mistake, because Iran is the world's problem."

The debate has reached into Tel Aviv, the Israeli metropolis most prominent in Iran's sights and one of whose councilwomen demonstrated against Barak outside his home on Sunday.

But Moshe Tyomkin, a retired army colonel in charge of Tel Aviv's crisis planning, urged calm in an Army Radio interview.

"We have had experience with missiles, and we know exactly what will happen," he said. "People, the country is living its life, and you can't concoct a catastrophe at every moment."
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1 ) Brian Cohen / Israel
13/08/2012 20:38
Big message for our neighbors: we are here to stay. We want to live in peace, so make peace with us or you will die if you start a war with us.

2 ) @ Brian Cohen / USA
13/08/2012 23:28
A statement like "make piece or die" shows your true character. Israel has never in it's short history actually fought a war with equals. Or even close to it. They have only fought defenseless Palestinians. The six day war was a joke, Egypt had committed half it's military to assist fighting a civil war in Yemen. It was really just a sneak attack that was successful that's all. But are you tough enough? I don't know. But all those rainbow flags hanging on the streets of tel aviv arent assuring.

3 ) Charity Clayton / UK
13/08/2012 23:52
Brian Cohen, those are not the words of a peace lover, but the words of someone who wishes everyone around him to be subject to his will, no matter what the cost. Your version of peace is death and destruction, starvation and privation for those who are not totally compliant with your greedy, self seeking and self righteous way of life.

4 ) Outlier / USA
14/08/2012 00:46
Based on early reports regarding Iran's response to the recent earthquake, perhaps a better question would be whether Iran is tough enough for a long war with Israel. Widespread damage, collateral civilian casualties - unwanted but not totally avoidable - and poor emergency response in Iran would put the ruling religious leaders at risk of overthrow by their own people.

5 ) southparkbear / usa
14/08/2012 03:59
definitely not. We already lost 10,000 times at least according to arabs count

6 ) Yehuda Solomon / Israel
14/08/2012 05:30
Before we would go to war with Iran let everyone know our civilian safety measures would be like nothing the world has ever seen. That means that any counter-military actions against us from missiles to bio/chemical weapons or anything else will have been fully taken into account to minimize casualties. There is no other nation on earth--including the U.S.--that can make that claim. We are not going to be fully prepared for any damn counter-attack; we're going to be PRO-ACTIVELY (cont.)

7 ) Yehuda Solomon / Israel
14/08/2012 05:44
prepared. Translation: That means we're going to be better than the best damn world-class chess player on earth: We're not going to be just 3 or 4 steps ahead of Iran, Hezbollah or their allies; no, we're going to be at least a couple dozen steps AHEAD of their damn plans so they'll get the hell shocked out of them. If it comes to war, we're going to do a Colin Powell on them like they wouldn't believe. We REMEMBER what he said during the Iraqi Gulf war regarding the Iraqi military (cont.)

8 ) Yehuda Solomon / Israel
14/08/2012 05:58
in Kuwait. Said he (on behalf of the U.S. military): "We're going TO CUT IT OFF, then we're going to KILL IT." We sure as hell don't want war with anyone; we're not being fatalistic. On the other hand, we're not taking any chances with Iran's potential of attaining the ABILITY to make a nuclear bomb even if it doesn't actually do it. Co-existing with a nuclear-bomb-making capable Iran would be equal to living with a would-be executioner.

9 ) Brian Cohen / Israel
14/08/2012 13:29
Get off it, people. I've been calling for peace for longer than you've been on this planet. I'm ready for peace talks with Iran, but they are not interested. You may not believe the Iranians, but we do. Read their lips, not mine: http://english.farsnews.com/newstext.php?nn=9102112759 Chief of Staff of the Iranian Armed Forces Major General Hassan Firouzabadi: " "The Iranian nation is standing for its cause that is the full annihilation of Israel." What don't you understand here?

10 ) Carlos / usa
14/08/2012 19:37
The problem with the world is not Irans nuclear weapons it is israels nukes. In terms of rationality, israel has attacked everyone of its neighbors often without provocation, Iran has not attacked any of its neighbors unless it was invaded. Such a stark difference. israel is so ridiculously aggressive and the world worries about Iran? The world is topsy turvy and unfortunately the lunatics have the nukes. The world will end by nukes and it will be israel that ends the world for humanity.

11 ) Carlos / usa
14/08/2012 19:39
israel must be paying commentators alot. I have never seen so much nonsense in the comments.

12 ) johnny benson / usa
15/08/2012 04:47
less anyonr forgot......israel has nukes pointed at iran....and if necesary lets hope they use them

13 ) Yehuda Solomon / Israel
15/08/2012 18:12
@ 10 Carlos/usa, Not to deviate into areas beyond this article but to be fair and accurate regarding your comments, yes, we have been the first to attack in some wars in the past (for example, Jun., 1967) but it was precisely--as in that year--because of unforgiveable provocation and only after exhausting all possible, peaceful efforts. We literally had no choice. Yes, Iran has not attacked its neighbors unless invaded and suffered greatly with its war (started by) Iraq back in the (cont.)

14 ) Yehuda Solomon / Israel
15/08/2012 18:30
1980's. We are not lunatics or "trigger" ("nuke" or "attack")-happy and REMEMBER that. I can say right now unless we have solid public support (or other impossible-to-ignore reason, such as irrefutable evidence Iran actually has or is definitely attempting to make a nuclear bomb), we are NOT going to attack Iran. (We always pay attention to U.S. concerns but realize the final decision is up to US.) So forget about commentary nonsense. We mean what we say but we are NOT damn war-mongering.

15 ) Julie / USA
15/08/2012 19:33
Carlos is right, he always makes excellent comments. it will be the unprecedented narcissism of izrahell that ends the world.

16 ) Joe Fattal / USA
15/08/2012 22:19
A war with Iran will mostly benefit the Palestinians. Iran might lose so the Israeli. That as long Hezbollah stay out of it so the Palestinians don't get caught in the crossfire, the Palestinians will probably win their war with Israel.

17 ) @ the Author / USA
20/08/2012 16:06
An even better question would be "Are the Iranians tough enough for even a short war with Israel" ??
I ask this question because a israel-Iran won't last very long, in any meaningful way, just like the wars with Hezbollah didn't, where all of Hezbollah's high-tech weapons were destroyed in the first few hours of fighting, and the rest had no ability to target anything in Israel.

18 ) johnny benson / usa
23/08/2012 20:34
..iran coudnt even beat iraq
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